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Why do we always need to learn things the hard way? Summary, key lessons, and conclusions on Covid-19 Virus and Vaccines [by Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche April 21, 2021]

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Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche PhD, is an internationally recognised vaccine developer having worked as the head of the Vaccine Development Office at the German Centre for Infection Research. [https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/]

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 0:00
Hello, everyone, this is probably going to be my last talk about the COVID-19 crisis. Today, I would like to share with you my conclusions, basically a summary of my conclusions from the analysis that I made on this on this pandemic. So, I summarized my conclusions in a few slides, which I will show to you. So I will again, share my screen.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 0:36
Okay, there we go.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 0:40
So, summary key lessons learned and conclusions from my analysis on the COVID-19 crisis. So the summary of my conclusions is as follows. And I would like, first of all to say that a number of these conclusions can be immediately drawn from the lecture that I posted this morning on on my website, and which basically explains that, high infection rates in the population always lead to an erosion of the natural immunity in people that are naturally protected against the disease.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 1:26
And because of this erosion of the natural immunity in naturally protected people, it will lead to this high infectious rate will lead to an enhanced rate of disease and even severe disease. So that is something important to realize. To explain this relationship, I would like to refer you to the lecture posted this morning on the occurrence of asymptomatic infection caused by COVID-19 or by SARS-COV2 virus.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 2:04
So the other important thing to realize is that on the other side, on the contrary, low infection rates in a population will lead to breeding to a breeding of more infectious variants. How this works is also explained in the the lecture that I posted this morning. So for those who are less interested in the scientific arguments behind these conclusions, and I will read them for you, it will suffice to see and to follow what is going to occur, what is going to happen in the next weeks. In several different countries.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 2:46
Where currently the COVID-19 crisis is still going on and in some countries even intensify. So what are the conclusions? Well, first of all, asymptomatic carriers, they will inevitably serve as a breeding ground for more infectious variants. So SARS COVID, to ensure it’s a perpetuation in the population, by infecting people to some extent, and in a non symptomatic way, these asymptomatically infected people will be able to, to shed virus and this will ultimately lead as explained in the lecture I posted this morning will ultimately lead to more infectious variants.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 3:41
So a second conclusion is that mass implementation of stringent infection prevention measures will enhance breeding of more infectious variants, and hence, pose a higher threat to younger age groups or otherwise naturally protected subjects. So that what what I was saying the higher the infection rate in the population.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 4:06
And of course, if you have more infectious variants, the infection rate in the population will go up. This will always lead to an erosion of the natural immunity, mediated by natural antibodies in people that are naturally protected. So these are, for example, young people naturally protected people or people who at the beginning of the pandemic are naturally protected because they have sufficient sufficient natural immunity.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 4:36
So by implementing stringent infection prevention measures, you will just enhance the breeding of more infectious variants. So that’s what we have been seeing at the end of, of last year, when all of a sudden after almost 10 months of implementation of stringent infection prevention measures. We saw all of a sudden more infectious variants popping up.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 4:59
So to the conclusion mass vaccination campaigns will promote further breeding of variants that become even more infectious and will finally evolve into vaccine resistant variants.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 5:12
Again, how this counts is explained in the lecture I, I put on the website is morning. And because mass vaccination campaigns will promote this further breeding of even more infectious variants, this will lead in so mass vaccination campaigns in elderly or otherwise vulnerable groups pose a higher threat to younger age groups or otherwise naturally protected subjects. And that is precisely because they, the vaccination of this, this population will lead to a further breeding of infectious variants that were already circulating in the population before the mass vaccination campaign started.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 5:56
And a mass vaccination will just promote further breeding of these variants, so that they become even more infectious and therefore, become a higher threat to the younger age groups or other groups that are naturally protected. Mass vaccination campaigns in elderly followed by mass vaccination of younger age groups pose an even higher threat to these groups, so to the younger age groups, and that is due to the fact that first of all, as I was just saying, mass vaccination campaigns in the elderly will make the already circulating infectious, highly infectious variants even more infectious, so the infection pressure in the population will still increase and on top by vaccinating the younger age groups, you will this will lead of course, there was separation of natural antibody mediated protection.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 6:52
So the antibodies that are generated in the younger age groups, they will increasingly prevent natural antibodies from neutralizing the virus, from capturing the virus. And so, the combination of both the erosion of the natural immunity combined with a higher infection rate in the population due to mass vaccination campaigns in the elderly, will ultimately pose a very high threat to the younger age groups. The next conclusion; mass vaccine vaccination dramatically diminishes the effect of infection prevention measures.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 7:38
So, the more you vaccinate, the more you’ll progress with mass vaccination, the less the effect will be of infection prevention measures of course, except when you if you do a complete lockdown and the virus can so to say no longer propagate at all, but otherwise, similar downs or just tightening up of infection prevention measures will have very, very, very little effect on the effect of the mass vaccination.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 8:14
Okay, then vaccine resistance in elderly or otherwise vulnerable groups. So, I mean, the resistance of the of the virus to the vaccine will of course, pose a threat to those groups themselves, but will also pose a threat to the non vaccinated people and that is again, because if people become resistant to the vaccine, then they will be able to support the replication the propagation of the virus, this will indeed lead to an increase in the infection pressure in the population and therefore, erode the natural immunity of the non vaccinated people, which will then in turn enhance the morbidity and mortality rate in those groups.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 9:01
So, the next slides is my conclusion that there is no proof of any beneficial effects of the Covid-19 mass vaccination campaigns at the level of the population. We do know of course, that there is an individual effect or there is an effect at the individual level, which I think is going to be transient and as already seen, that there is increasing evidence that the protection even against severe disease is is diminishing. So but despite proven efficacy and safety in clinical trials, no doubt about it. So of course and when I, when I talk about, well, safety in clinical trials, of course, we can only or investigators could only evaluators over the course and the duration of those clinical studies.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 9:58
If we are now seeing the additional secondary effects or safety issues. Well, this is, of course, due to the fact that many more people are now receiving these vaccines. And the follow up period of follow up is just been extended, but in principle yes those vaccines have been proven, efficacious and safe in the clinical trials. But despite that, there is no single indication that these vaccines protect the population when used in mass vaccination campaigns during a pandemic, and I would even say on the contrary, mass vaccination enhances erosion of the natural part of herd community, while preventing its replacement by adaptive immunity.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 10:48
So since we are implementing this mass vaccination, we are, for example, seeing a dramatic increase in the number of infectious or highly infectious variants in many, many, many countries that are now worth vaccinating full speed and have brought their vaccination rates up to fairly high levels already. And on top not only that, we are on top also witnessing very, very strong very heavy waves of morbidity and also mortality in those countries.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 11:27
So there is and I will come back, of course, the case a typical case of Israel and and UK, where people are saying, Well, you see that vaccine mass vaccination does have an effect. I will, I explained previously. And I will show you again, that the what we are seeing right now in those countries, has nothing to do with the success of mass vaccination campaigns.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 11:55
So more and more conventional vaccines are being developed. So I mean, if people are so convinced that these are the vaccines to use, then one is wondering, of course, why there are so many different other vaccines that are being developed, they’re not only variations on the s-protein, with variations of the s-protein, but also several different several different concepts.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 12:18
Well, when I look at these vaccines, I still consider them as being conventional vaccines in the sense that they do nothing else than mimicking the immune response that is induced by natural infection, at least as far as the s-protein is concerned, and that they have no sterilizing, they do not induce a sterilizing immunity.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 12:43
So it is my conviction that none of these vaccines will be able to control to more infectious variants, nor to generate adaptive herd immunity, which was proposed to be the endgame of the mass vaccination.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 13:01
So if now, there is a discussion that people are saying, well, in those countries that are vaccinating really like hell, and where there is no improvement in the rates of infection and disease. On the contrary, of course, it’s easy to say yeah, it’s well, because we have not vaccinated sufficient people we need, we need to continue this, this vaccine, this mass vaccination campaigns and to increase the vaccination rates before we will ultimately see an effect.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 13:36
So what I’m saying is that mass vaccination, do nothing else mass vaccinations do nothing else, then, first of all, deriving promoting the the generation of more infectious variants. And second, also increasing or enhancing waves of mortality and morbidity in people who were naturally protected by virtue of a strong natural immunity. And that is because the two are related, of course, more infectious variants, increase the infection rate in the population.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 14:16
And as I’m always saying, These infection rate is ultimately going to erode the innate immunity in people who are naturally protected, especially young people, but also people who have or in good health in good shape and, and dispose of high levels of natural antibodies. So in order to sort out his eternal question or discussion, I’ve been asking for the for her for defining objective criteria, objective criteria that could be considered as reliable indicators of enhanced fitness of more infectious immune escape variants.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 14:59
So If we would agree if we could agree, okay, tell us what, what are the indicators that clearly point to an enhanced fitness of this more infectious immune escape variants? And if we have this criterion, then we could of course, ask the next question, which is very important, how do we now investigate whether or not there is a true correlation between these criteria criteria and the external influences that we are applying to this pandemic?

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 15:38
So, the external influences, such as those brought about by pharmaceutical or non pharmaceutical intervention, this is to say, mass vaccination or stringent infection prevention measures. So, my fear is, and that is what I see coming, unfortunately, is that the health authorities will only admit the disaster of the mass vaccination, when there is complete resistance to the vaccine, and when this complete resistance to the vaccine will result in huge morbidity and mortality rates, not only the vaccinees is because the vaccinees is, of course, if there is resistance, their antibodies will no longer work. And what they still will do is to suppress the natural immunity of, of these people.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 16:19
And because then the infection pressure will tremendously increase, even the non vaccinated people will be threatened and they’ll be subjected to enhance disease. And my fear is is, is that it’s only when we are going to see this happen. And that is what I predict, unfortunately, will happen, that authorities will admit that something went wrong.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 16:41
So, well, let me quickly show this curves I’ve been showing them on previous occasions, but it’s always good to repeat. Here you can see, for example, how countries like India had a second wave. That was, well, it’s not very close to the first wave. But when we compare this with what happened in our countries, the second or the more pronounced wave that we saw, and that and that was also including younger subjects, and was came pretty came pretty late.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 17:35
So there was in terms of time, several, several months between the first wave and the wave, the more important waves that we’re also including younger subjects. So in in India, for example, we see that this wave, despite the low infection pressure, at the this plateau here is is increasing pretty steeply. And I and it’s also following pretty closely, just a few months, half a year maximum, less, of course, let’s, let’s say four months after the first wave ended.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 18:17
I I think it’s very, very likely that in fact, mass vaccination, which was enhancing enhancing the development of more infectious variants is contributing to the steep incre increase in in the disease rate. In in India, as we’re seeing higher infection rates, you get higher infection rates, when more when more infectious variants are are circulating or when you’re generating more infectious variants.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 18:51
And so that is precisely what I think mass vaccination is doing. So it’s not surprising then that you do design infection pressure, you all of a sudden get a very substantial erosion of innate immunity people who were previously protected and are now part of this important wave of disease seen in India.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 19:16
In other countries, for example, Brazil Chile, Uruguay, again, you saw this very steep increase in the in the second wave, even before the previous wave came to an end, normally the wave comes to an end you you go down you come to a plateau and then you can see second peak.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 19:37
But of course if you now have mass vaccination, which started here, approximately, and the mass vaccination is again, contributing to enhance infectiousness of an strain of strain that was already highly infectious me to Brazil strain that is circulating in this countries. When on top you are whipping up the infectiousness of the strain by doing the mass vaccination, then it’s no surprise that the second wave will almost immediately a second wave of disease, also, including younger people will, will occur even before the previous wave has come down.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 20:24
So and then what about his countries, you know, we have you have the success stories, like, for example, in the United Kingdom, in Israel, and well, it was also hoped for in the United States, but of course, in United States the, the slopes are again, increasing. And but but let’s look at the the case of the United Kingdom and Israel here, this was claimed to be a success of the vaccine is sharper decrease, which is not at all the case because he has restarted the mass vaccination at the very peak of infection.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 21:04
And we know if you have this peak of infection, then this this really reflects the high susceptibility the high vulnerability of people who got as a result of the previous wave will go to their natural antibodies suppressed by sub-optimal anti spike antibodies that resulted from previous infection.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 21:31
So in asymptomatically, infected people, and when you have these people who now get, of course, the disease etc, they will develop antibodies, they will get protected. And then the remainder of this asymptomatically infected people, they still have antibodies that are high enough natural antibodies to prevent, in fact, the virus from spreading at at high speed, why because the virus is now circulating in our population, but asymptomatically infected subjects will only spread about spread less virus, and also the amount of this symptomatically infected people after a vast or a large part of them have already been infected and got the disease here, the remainder comprises a smaller part of the population, they spread the virus pretty slowly and hence, infection rate goes down.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 22:36
This has, in fact nothing to do with the mass vaccination. For example, here in the UK, you got within a few weeks, two or three weeks a drop of 50% whereas at that point in time, the vaccination rate was barely between two and 10%. So much, much lower than for example, vaccination rates that were in Chile associated with a very strong increase in decrease in fact, in the rates of infection and disease. So, when this happened here in Chile, well, we had already vaccination rates around 40%. So, there is no there is no way to say that this is due to to the vaccination.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 23:23
And this leaves of course, people with a very false impression that in those countries, you got a success story because the decrease was simply due to the fact that mass vaccination was started at the very peak height of the of, of the pandemic. And then of course, you get this kind of plateau as I was saying we have the infection rate is low, but which simply reflects breathing, have even more infectious variants.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 23:58
Due also to the mass vaccination, you have the infectious strains already circulating mass vaccination will even further enhance the effect the infectiousness of those variants and it will evolve up to a point where you have resistance and then you will see in in those countries like United Kingdom like Israel, that all of a sudden you have a steep increase in cases.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 24:24
Okay, so what is the bottom line? So the main threat of vaccination that the more people you vaccinate the list viral replication you have and hence if you were more infectious variants will have this does not apply at all please forget about this mantra, it is so wrong. Why? Well it does not take into account the most fundamental mechanism of evolutionary biology, which is natural selection, and natural selection is often described as survival of the fittest, right?

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 25:02
So the the strains that are or the variants that are most fit that are the fittest, they will be selected, and they will have an advantage, a competitive advantage. So this natural selection, in other words is promoting the survival and the propagation of a highly infectious variants, which indirectly, as I explained, cause enhanced morbidity and mortality in previously naturally protected subjects.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 25:30
So, this mantra does not apply, because infectivity is going to go over dramatically, because you are selecting and adapting highly infectious variants even more so when you vaccinate, and those will be the cause of enhanced morbidity and mortality, especially in people who see their natural immunity eroded. And these are particularly people who were inadequately protected at the beginning of the pandemic.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 25:58
So, I’ve been calling I’ve been asking, I’ve been begging to stop mass vaccination, this was my first call to the WHO I would add to this, please, especially in youngsters, because this is going to be really a catastrophe.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 26:15
Not only will mass expense faction vaccination deriving degeneration of even more infectious variants, that have already a very detrimental impact on the younger population, because it erodes their natural immunity, but on top by vaccinating them, these youngsters, you will, you will of course, generate long lived antibodies that will suppress their natural immunity.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 26:43
And of course, when resistance full resistance will come to to the vaccine, then these youngsters are left with nothing at all. So their vaccinal antibodies will not work anymore, but they will also see their innate immunity, suppressed for for a long time, due to this long lived vaccinal antibodies.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 27:06
So I then in a second call to the who I asked to set up a task force concentrating on three items, first, eradicate the viral variants, because I see no other way to get rid of those to focus on early treatment that we can at least treat people at a very, very early stage of disease avoiding for them to have to go to the hospital and to be put on mechanical ventilators. And and my third topic for this task force I was asking for was to concentrate on health and natural immunity.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 27:44
So we know that good health, healthy lifestyle, healthy food, healthy living habits, etc. are correlated with good levels of natural antibodies. So good lifestyle healthy life is very, very important. But again, no response either to the first call, nor to the second call. Now my last call is really to develop as up natural killer cell based vaccine candidates. Why? Well, we know that in asymptomatically infected people, the virus can be completely eliminated at a very early stage of the disease by NK cells.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 28:22
And but in fact, any kind of sterile vaccine that would induce sterilizing immunity will do the job, but practically speaking, I see no other approach than an NK cell based vaccine approach.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 28:40
So, I have been offering my help on this, there has been no response either, of course against by fact checkers, I will be I will be considered or labeled, as you know, as a vicious guy, this will be again, one of my vicious trait that I am advocating for NK cell based vaccines to be developed.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 29:10
I sincerely think that this is really the best way to go. And without any personal benefit or profit or whatsoever, I can only say I’m able to I’m willing to help collaborating on such vaccines. And it could even be that we don’t know that other vertebrate species are infected as well. We, I don’t know what is the situation allied with our livestock.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 29:38
So for example, we are we have high concentrations of animals sitting on very small surfaces like in the pig and poultry industry. And with all these variants appearing with all these changes in this protein we know that also these changes in this protein are responsible for crossing species barriers. So I’m not so sure that none of these variants could be hosted by any of the livestock in our countries. So if that is the case, I mean, vaccines vaccination may need to be extended to those animal species as well.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 30:17
And then I think it’s also critical to develop as soon as possible or reliable in homes serological kits so that people can self test for NTS antibodies. So basically speaking, if you have no anti-s antibodies, you can reasonably assume that your natural immunity is not eroded. And when on top, you’re in good health, well, you should have reasonable good level of natural antibodies, not not suppressed by any anti-s antibodies, if you’re negative in such an essay, of course, the tests need to be reliable, because you cannot afford of course, having false negative results.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 31:07
But if that is the case, and your natural antibodies are not suppressed, and you’re in good health, well, basically, you should be able to cope with any with any kind of infectious variant without having to suffer from a severe disease. So why do we always need to learn everything the hard way?

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 31:26
And I’m anticipating because I’ve done a proper homework and I fears that my conclusions will apply. You know, it’s everyone will be able to check in the in the next coming weeks. But I hear with conclude my homework. And I think my messages have been very clear. And we will ask ourselves the question, well, why did we need to go through this pain? And why did we not learn things before? And and we only learn when catastrophes happen?

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 32:06
Well, I see a number of reasons. First of all, there is many unresolved questions with is in I put a number of questions on my website fresh questions that have not been resolved questions that have not been addressed. And it’s always very, very dangerous to implement, to implement interventions on on on very large populations to do large scale interventions, for example, in terms of immunization in terms of infection prevention, if you don’t really understand what is going on, and if you cannot answer some some basic and, and very, very important questions, questions that are not cannot be answered by the simplistic mantra of conventional vaccination.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 32:57
I refer for this question. So my website, but I’ve just listed a few, for example, why you get all of a sudden after these mass vaccination implementation, this total decrease in infectious variants, right? Why do we so to say, have success in certain countries, whereas there’s no success in other countries?

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 33:18
I explained is to some extent that there is a misinterpretation of the effect of the of the mass vaccination. Why today, we can’t predict a curves anymore. If you hear the epidemiologists, well, they don’t even know they can no longer tell whether a curve will go up, down, will go down up or, or, or stay at a plateau. And so why all of a sudden, we see after some smaller initial waves, we see all of a sudden these big waves of disease were also a number of young people are part of, and for example, yeah, how is the virus cleared in a symptomatically infected people?

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 33:57
I mean, I am pretty much convinced that this is due to NK cells. But there has been no general consensus or even a debate on this. So this is the first time we leave many unresolved questions on the table. Second, we don’t listen to insights of others.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 34:16
Nowadays, if you’re not an officially recognized expert, or you don’t have this kind of world reputation, or you are not a professor, or you’re not having a sufficient number of publications, well, people don’t listen to you. And so it’s not about really solving global health problems. It’s more like focusing on people’s bio on people’s track track record. And I think it’s not because you don’t have all of these credentials, that you don’t have brains and that you cannot do a proper homework.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 34:57
So another reason why I think we always need to learn everything. the hard way is that we are nowadays more focused on technologies than we are focused on fundamental principles of biology. Also, we think too much in silos, everyone has his own field of specialty of expertise. Whereas solving complex problems like solving a global health problem, it requires a multidisciplinary approach you have to draw from evolutionary biology from immunology from vaccinology, from viralology, etc.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 35:39
We don’t do that enough, because we are too focused, too much focused on on our silos. And I think our society is also increasingly developing what I call herd behavior, or herd mentality, rather than herd immunity, actually. And so what you can see is that, for example, the politicians are blindly following the key experts. And the key experts are blindly following the WHO, and the WHO is kind of like sticking to their global mandate.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 36:20
But as a result, people have no choice, but to follow, in fact, the leaders of the pack, and what those are saying right now is, well, we call these in French “Sa Belle eh Tais Toi”, so which means be nice, be beautiful, but shut up, and just get yourself vaccinated.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 36:44
And that is certainly a situation or mentality that is unacceptable. And we more and more live in a kind of in a kind of society or climate right right now, where no other opinions seem to be tolerated, even even if they are based on science. So I have been calling really for solidarity.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 37:11
But in return, I got a number of biologically naive fact checkers on my back. And these guys are pretty unscrupulous in that they blindly engage into politically orchestrated efforts to silence any opposition. Even even if that opposition is based on science, they are all about bashing and debunking, and censoring websites are preventing dissemination of scientific information through several different media. So this is this is really a shame. And not only that, but also experts who have been criticizing me out of their ivory tower, and hiding behind their name, their reputation or their institution.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 38:05
Instead, instead, of course of engaging into a multi disciplinary discussion, often called to have this multi disciplinary discussion. It’s easy to sit in your office and to talk to fact checkers, and then give your opinion and then the fact checkers as the postman, they confront you with with with his opinions. I mean, that doesn’t add anything that has no value at all.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 38:29
So instead of solidarity, what we are seeing or Coalitions that derive mass vaccination campaigns, Coalitions of people with conflicts of interest be their political, commercial or reputational interests, and all hiding behind each other. So I think this must stop at I’m again asking colleagues and experts not at least in my own country to abandon the sport and hypocritical attitude and to collaborate on a constructive instead of destructive way.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 39:07
So I think and that is what that is really what my forecast is, because I don’t think this will have a happy end, and certainly not if we continue like this. I think it will even go to the point where the word vaccine, the term vaccine will be banned from the medical vocabulary.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 39:27
We vaccinologists have paid a lot of attention and invested a lot of time and energy in convincing people of the usefulness and the benefit of vaccination. I think these efforts will be completely lost. We will never have that as many anti vaxxers as we have already right now. And as we will certainly have at the end of the of the pandemic. So I propose to replace the term vaccine which is referring to the conventional vaccines that we are using to conditional immune protection induce induce formulation, it’s a long word, but the abbreviation would be CIPE, or CIPE.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 40:13
But the word conditional is important. Why is this important? Because we need to learn that we can that conventional vaccines can be very, very useful, but we can only use them in a beneficial way, provided certain conditions are fulfilled. So why am I saying this? Well, because the efficiency of conventional vaccines that are basically just mimicking immunity elicited by natural infection can only work provided in these certain conditions or fulfilled and I’ll give you some examples.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 40:48
We have seen, for example, vaccination with live vectors against Ebola in people that were in the incubation time, so because there were contacts from cases, and they were in a ring trial, they were vaccinated with a live victim, knowing that some people have these people are in the incubation time. So this can lead to disasters to disasterous results.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 41:15
And now we have a new example, that we use conventional vaccines for doing mass vaccination in the heat of a pandemic. And it is really a very, very bad idea because it just making the whole situation much much worse. So with that, I would like to thank of course, all the people who have helped me in and still helped me in disseminating and getting out to the world and getting out to scientific information to help disseminate is this this scientific message by ways of several different means.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 41:55
Some have used their broadcasting platforms have made broadcast platforms available. And by doing so, we got our message disseminated by podcasts, or even livestream shows. So I’m very grateful for the help of all these people. And we have avoided to use platforms that are specifically labeled as anti vax platforms, because the message really is not against vaccination is it is really against vaccination, under inadequate conditions.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 42:36
As I as I tried to point out, I would like to specifically thank, my nephew and my brother in law, who have been providing me on a completely completely voluntary basis with unconditional logistic support their trust, confidence and and and dedication in the fight against this this madness and in the battle to make science and and justice prevail.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 43:09
So in fact, after all this, I barely dare to look in your into your face, as I know that what I’ve been saying is, is is incredibly bad news.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 43:24
And so there is always an option to not say anything at all, I could have just you know, have kept silent and it would have made my my my life much easier. But knowing what I know, and looking at what is currently happening in this world, and also knowing that there is still a very narrow window of opportunity for turning the tide.

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche 44:00
I felt like sharing this with you is simply a moral obligation. And last but not least, well, I’m not religious, but frankly speaking, I’m hoping for a miracle. And if God cannot do this, we as a human species need to make this happen. Thank you.

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